YZ：Tom, you said you have a question. Go ahead and ask it.
Tom：Yeah, I am just wondering if Dr.Xu believed that this would be an effective method that the government is using to close down these schools, and result in the migrant workers and their children returning to the country side; or just result in the children are sent home and the family being split up.
WW：The answer to Tom’s question from Dr. Xu is that No, he doesn’t think that the government’s actions are going to push the parents and the kids back to villages, most likely the result will be the kids will go back to the villages, and the parents will stay in the cities. And the family will be split.
WW：On the question that Xiaomi asked earlier, are there any local Beijing dwellers supporting government actions in this regard, the answer again is No. From what Dr. Xu is seeing, the urban people and the migrants, they are benefiting from each other because the migrants provide the cheap labor and the urban people who have properties, for example, to rent them to the migrants. So they benefit in that way. And other the other hand ,the education system doesn’t interact that much.
YZ：Since Tom has a tight schedule, my last question for you is that what do you think of the Hukou system? I know it has been talked about for decades and everybody is saying that needs to be changed. But till now it hasn’t been changed. What do you think are the difficulties to change Hukou system?
Tom：Well, it seems like there is always a lot of talk from the government about the benefits and stability that the Hukou system provides. When I talked to a sociologist from Beijing, they often pointed out that China doesn’t really have slums, which is part of why it’s difficult to convince the government for major revisions. They see this as a way of providing greater stability and we always know that stability is the government’s one of the top priorities.
Tom：But at the same time, the hukou system is a huge inequality. It’s sth. that needs to be addressed, but I think that’s a question left for the Chinese people as to how that can be changed, they don’t want to be offered too many suggestions. I just want to advocate on behalf of my students, for their sake, it seems like something needs to be done.
YZ：Tom, thank you very much for your time. I think you have to go back for work.
Tom：Yeah, but thank you very much for this opportunity and thank you, Dr. Xu, for all of your incredible working for advocating these migrant workers rights. It’s something that’s incredibly valuable to the people I have worked with. Hopefully it will be making a clear difference soon.
YZ：Thank you Tom too, for whatever you have done for China.
WW：Thanks, Tom, for your writing